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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 14, 2013 5:32pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

not sure what you mean by "uploaded as a different item". do you have an example?

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Poster: hoyt Date: Feb 14, 2013 5:40pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

Maybe I've always checked the 'Don't make derivations' on my 24 bit uploads, but I sure don't remember doing that...

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Poster: hoyt Date: Feb 14, 2013 5:33pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

http://archive.org/details/justinancheta2012-12-31.mix.flac24
http://archive.org/details/justinancheta2012-12-31.mix.flac16

I created this yesterday, which I supposed is related:

http://archive.org/post/557907/link-24-and-16-bit-recordings

It seems I should be able to see one page that has a table with 24 bit FLACs, 16 bit FLACs, MP3s and Oggs. But I, as the taper, want to control how my lossless content goes from 24 to 16 bit. We're picky about that part :)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 14, 2013 9:12pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

you can choose not to have derived files made. i assumed you were going to show me widespread evidence that lots of tapers are creating duplicate items not just that you are doing it. i don't think they are.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Feb 15, 2013 2:22am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

A few years ago there was a bug in the way lossy derivatives were made from a 24-bit source, so derivatives were disabled by default. That's been fixed for at least a year or two as far as I can recall.

For what it's worth, I always upload separate copies of 16- and 24-bit but I think a lot of tapers are moving away from that. It would be nice to have 16-bit FLACs derived from 24-bit and displayed on the same page, or the ability to upload 16- and 24-bit to the same item and have one set of lossy derivatives appear alongside them. i.e.





Audio File24-bit FLAC16-bit FLACVBR MP3Ogg Vorbis


This post was modified by greenone on 2013-02-15 10:22:10

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Poster: morst Date: Mar 15, 2013 3:35pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

I record at 24/48, and am in the club of having given up on 16-bit. There is no reason to make these files anymore. Who still uses CD's? They're an awful waste of plastic, and the 16/44.1 format is 31 years old! Can you imagine someone in 1980 being all excited about a recording technology from 1949? Things are changing much faster than that now...

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Poster: wzbw88 Date: Feb 15, 2013 12:06pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

I think that would be a great development.

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Poster: hoyt Date: Feb 15, 2013 6:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

Well, I just pulled the example I was talking about, but just now I searched for flac24, and these were all on the front page:

http://archive.org/details/theshooktwins2010-07-19.matrix.flac24
http://archive.org/details/theshooktwins2010-07-19.matrix.flac16

http://archive.org/details/dtstssr2008-12-29.Schoeps_mk4-cmc6.flac24
http://archive.org/details/dtstssr2008-12-29.Schoeps_mk4-cmc6

http://archive.org/details/pbs2009-01-05.Schoeps_mk4-cmc6.flac24
http://archive.org/details/pbs2009-01-05.Schoeps_mk4-cmc6

http://archive.org/details/speakeasy2009-10-16.sbd.flac24
http://archive.org/details/speakeasy2009-10-16.sbd.sbeok.flac16

Pretty sure that's what everyone does with a 24 bit version, not just me. The table that greenone posted below is exactly what I was thinking in that other thread. I'd like to be able to upload both of those FLAC copies.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Feb 15, 2013 1:04pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

Regarding 24/96 and 16/44 FLAC files coexisting in One Item:

Manually create the 16/44 FLACs on your computer, derived from your high resolution 24/96 FLACs;
then upload the 16/44 FLACs to the LMA;
the lossy derivatives will be created by default (desirable);
wait an hour or two for the deriving process to finish completely;
then upload the 24/96 FLACs after that;
this way you'll have 16/44 and 24/96 FLACs coexisting in the same item...

my example looks like Green One's table:
http://archive.org/details/MonteBarrygd73-06-10.AUD.fob.barry.flac

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Feb 15, 2013 1:18pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

my example looks like Green One's table:
http://archive.org/details/MonteBarrygd73-06-10.AUD.fob.barry.flac


Yes, except the 24-bit FLACs are all listed at the top, with no titles, and the 16-bit FLACs with their derivatives are below that, offset by an otherwise blank column. It'd be great to have them all line up, 16 and 24 right next to each other. I personally don't care how my 16-bits are generated, I would LOVE to be able to upload 24-bit and be done with it!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 15, 2013 8:16am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Derivations for 24 Bit FLACs

thanks. you certainly can. but at this time you will need to select the "no derivatives" option. apologies if that's an inconvenience.

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